Why Being The New Kid 13 Times Changed Everything | The Nathan Newberry Show 080
Feb 21, 2025
The True Meaning of Proactive Leadership: Finding Self-Clarity Before Leading Others
In this powerful episode of The Nathan Newberry Show, identity coach Rocky Garza shares how true leadership begins with self-clarity. From his own journey attending 13 different schools before graduation to helping C-suite executives discover their authentic identities, Rocky reveals why personal responsibility and self-understanding must precede effective leadership of others.
Introduction: Redefining High Performance Through Personal Responsibility
What does high performance truly mean? According to Rocky Garza, it's not about metrics, KPIs, or external validation. Instead, it's fundamentally about personal responsibility.
"High performance is simply defined as personal responsibility," Rocky explains. "Those that are the highest performers based on the outside's definition are those that have the greatest internal personal responsibility—people who do what they say they're going to do, who have a commitment to themselves that is exponentially larger than the external validation they get from someone else."
This definition of high performance—centered on internal commitment rather than external validation—forms the foundation of Rocky's approach to leadership development. Through his identity mapping process and coaching work with CEOs and leaders, he helps individuals discover their authentic selves before attempting to lead others.
The Leadership Revelation: Leading vs. Managing
Perhaps the most profound insight Rocky shares is his distinction between true leadership and mere management:
"Leadership is a term that we created that said, 'Do I have the ability to gain a follower?'" Rocky explains. "Leadership means I am walking in a direction and there are other people who have either willingly or by obligation of job have chosen to say, 'I want to walk with you.' That's what leadership is."
In contrast, Rocky defines management as the oversight of tasks and responsibilities: "Everything else is management—can I make sure you did or didn't do the thing? I'm not leading my kids by making sure they did their laundry, that's managing the household."
The Transformational Approach to Leadership
Real leadership, according to Rocky, is about creating transformation through example: "Leadership says I do laundry on these days, come with me while I show you how to do laundry such that when the time is appropriate, you may choose to do laundry on your own and have a skill set you didn't have prior to being with me. That's leadership."
This distinction applies equally to parenting and corporate leadership. As Rocky notes, "If you can give the same kind of grace to your leadership team that you could give to your 9-year-old, I promise your business will be exponentially more profitable in 2025."
The challenge for many leaders is that they've conflated management with leadership—focusing on overseeing tasks rather than inspiring followers through clear vision and authentic example.
The 8-Step Path to Self-Clarity and Confident Leadership
Rocky's approach to developing effective leaders begins with a structured journey toward self-understanding:
1. Identity Mapping: Finding Your Language
The first step in Rocky's process is what he calls "identity mapping"—a technique developed over the past decade to help people articulate who they truly are.
"I have never met a person in my 41 years that did not know who they were," Rocky observes. "However, I have met almost every person that did not have the language—I would say they were illiterate. They didn't have the language to describe who they were such that it was understandable."
This lack of self-language creates a fundamental communication problem: "We tend to lack our ability and capacity to see that in our relationships... We don't have very strong messaging, you don't have very good marketing, because you're talking about yourself in a way that none of us can understand."
2. The Confidence Method: Overcoming Impostor Syndrome
After helping clients develop language around their identity, Rocky addresses the internal doubting voice that undermines confidence:
"The impostor is you. The impostor's voice is your voice—there's no other voice in there," Rocky explains. "How come on a Monday you can wake up and go, 'I'm going to crush this week'—your voice—and on Tuesday you can go, 'They're going to find me out and I'm going to be fired'—also your voice."
His confidence method helps leaders recognize these self-defeating narratives and transform them from obstacles into advantages:
"What if we could take those same thoughts and train them from confirmations and create affirmations? Which is the belief that something is good, and then I could wake up every day and have affirmation."
3. From Self-Clarity to Self-Confidence to Influence
Once leaders have developed both self-clarity and self-confidence, Rocky helps them apply these insights to influence others:
"Self-clarity lends itself to self-confidence. We then take both of those things, roll that together, we apply that in what we call the influence appraisal, which is our ability to say, 'How do I begin to now apply this into my daily life—relationships, parenting, friendships, work, leadership?'"
The result is a leader who operates from authentic strength rather than insecurity or impostor syndrome.
Turning Pain into Purpose: A Personal Journey
Rocky's approach to leadership and identity isn't theoretical—it emerges directly from his own challenging childhood experiences:
"Little Rocky, that's dad left before he turned two and spent his whole life growing up without his dad, watched his dad get remarried and have two kids and live a whole other life sort of semi-adjacent to where he was... Little Rocky whose mom's been married and divorced five times, and little Rocky who went to 13 schools before he graduated from high school."
These experiences of constant change and instability forced him to develop acute skills in building connections quickly: "I had to because if I didn't find a friend within the first five days of school, that I didn't get invited to the sleepover, which means I didn't have friends."
Using Your Past as Protection or Propulsion
Out of these challenges, Rocky developed a profound philosophy about how we relate to our difficult experiences:
"Are you currently using your past and your pain as a mechanism to protect yourself, meaning I'm using my past and my pain as a reason to keep you away, a reason to say I don't need you, a reason to say I'm independent? Or do you use your past and your pain as a mechanism to propel yourself in the direction of your purpose?"
This question becomes central to how leaders develop. Those who use past pain as protection tend to isolate themselves and resist vulnerability. Those who use it as propulsion transform their challenges into tools for connection and growth.
For Rocky, the journey has been about transforming his experiences of abandonment and constant relocation into tools that help others find clarity more quickly: "I've been on a journey to discover who I am my whole life... So identity mapping, the confidence method, the 365 formula, the influence appraisal—all of that, if I'm being very clear, is my attempt and approach to say, 'What have I done that has helped me find clarity in me, and how do I take and translate that to give it to somebody else?'"
The Future of Leadership: Human Connection in an AI World
In an era of advancing technology and artificial intelligence, Rocky believes the distinctly human elements of leadership become even more valuable:
"In the state of commerce, in the state of business—and it really applies everywhere—I think I just got really fortunate that I get to do it in the business space, because really all we do is talk about being a human in the business space. We don't talk about business that much."
As Rocky points out, despite all the technological advances at our disposal, people still seek in-person connection and guidance:
"Tony Robbins, whether you like him or don't like him... created the game and he's also winning and has for four decades. Now tell me why in a world where my boy can do whatever he wants... thousands of people pay thousands of dollars to be in a room with thousands of other people they don't know under the pretense that there's going to be someone in that room who's going to guide them to see themselves in a way that they long for."
This hunger for human connection and guidance creates an enduring need for authentic leadership—leadership that begins with self-clarity and extends to others through genuine example rather than mere management.
Finding Your Unique Intersection
Perhaps the most practical application of Rocky's philosophy is his focus on helping leaders find "the personalized intersection of personal conviction and professional ambition—how do we find the intersection of a deeply meaningful life and a wildly successful career?"
Rocky critiques the common coaching approach that says, "If you want a successful life and you like my life, come do what I'm doing, and you too can have a life like mine." Instead, he argues that each person needs to discover their own unique path:
"Please, please don't build your house next to mine. Please don't pursue what I am pursuing—that is going to fail you. But please discover what those locations are specifically for you."
Conclusion: The Path Forward for Aspiring Leaders
Rocky Garza's approach to leadership development offers a refreshing alternative to conventional management training. By starting with self-clarity, confronting impostor syndrome, and developing authentic influence, leaders can inspire true followership rather than mere compliance.
The most powerful takeaway from Rocky's insights is that leadership isn't primarily about techniques or strategies—it's about who you are and how clearly you can communicate that authentic self to others. As he puts it: "The most effective leaders are those who say, 'I am going to a place that I deeply believe in, and I am asking you to come along with me if you so choose.'"
This approach to leadership—founded on self-knowledge, vulnerability, and authentic purpose—offers a timeless model that technology can enhance but never replace. In a world increasingly dominated by artificial intelligence and automation, the distinctly human elements of leadership become even more valuable.
By following Rocky's eight-step path to self-clarity and confident leadership, aspiring leaders can transform not only their own lives but also the lives of those they lead—creating organizations and communities built on authentic connection rather than mere management.
Want to Scale Your Coaching Business with AI, Sales, and Systems?
Watch a 15-minute workshop to discover how to grow your brand, attract clients, and scale using AI, automated sales, and marketing strategies while building a media team for maximum leverage.