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Leads And Revenue: The 2 Numbers Every Business Is Chasing

Key Takeaways

  • Under all the busy work, every business is chasing more leads and more revenue, and what people really want underneath that is freedom of money, time and impact.
  • Keep growing in four skills: marketing, sales, fulfillment and leadership.
  • Sales comes down to confidence, which is not arrogance, and conviction that what you offer will really help.
  • Be everywhere by cross posting, but focus on one or two platforms, and remember every lead source still runs through your organic content.

There are two numbers every business is chasing, whether they realize it or not.

Number one is revenue. You want more money coming in. Number two is leads. To make more money, you need more leads. It sounds obvious. But most people get hung up on everything else. The content, the DMs, the logo, the brand. They lose sight of what actually drives the business.

Nathan Newberry in the interview: Leads And Revenue: The 2 Numbers Every Business Is Chasing (1 of 3)
Nathan Newberry in this interview.

What You Really Want Is Freedom

Underneath more money, there is something bigger. What people truly want is freedom. When I break that down, it comes out to three things: more money, more time and flexibility, and more impact.

Impact is the one people miss. We want to help people. That is part of how God made us. We get real meaning from serving others. You see it in Jesus, and in people throughout history who built their lives around helping others. So the real question is how to design a business that gives you more money, more time and more impact.

Nathan Newberry in the interview: Leads And Revenue: The 2 Numbers Every Business Is Chasing (2 of 3)
Nathan Newberry in this interview.

The Four Skills You Keep Growing In

Here are four skills you never stop working on.

Marketing. I cannot sell anyone until they know about me. You can be great at sales, but with no leads you will struggle.

Sales. Some people have negative feelings about the word sales, but we all sell. I sell my kids on eating broccoli. I sold my wife on marrying me. The goal is not selfish selling. It has to be a win for both sides.

The best salespeople I have trained and watched share two traits. The first is confidence. That is not arrogance. It is knowing who you are, and for me that is knowing who I am in relation to God. The second is conviction, a deep belief that what you offer will change someone's life. When those two line up, you are hard to stop.

Fulfillment. You have to deliver what you promise. The good news for coaches is that you already know your skill backwards and forwards, so delivery becomes the easy part.

Leadership. Leading yourself, leading your team, and building the systems and automations that let the vision grow.

These are skills you grow in every day, through books, courses, mentors and community.

Be Everywhere, Focus On One Or Two

People need to know, like and trust you before they buy. That takes eyeballs. The goal is to be everywhere, but to focus.

There is an idea I have heard called 7-11-4. It says people spend about seven hours with your content, across about eleven touch points, on about four platforms, before they buy. Big names like Alex Hormozi and Dan Martell show up on a ton of platforms.

But you do not have to run every platform yourself. Focus on one or two, and cross post the rest with a simple system or a team that publishes for you.

For most of you, the main one will be Instagram. If you sell to businesses or enterprises, it may be LinkedIn. My favorite is pairing Instagram with YouTube.

Here is why. If people only see your forty five or sixty second reels, it takes a very long time to add up to hours with you. Add a YouTube video or podcast once or twice a week, and people get real time with you. Then cut the long videos into reels and shorts and post them everywhere.

A good rhythm is working toward one post a day, and later two. Add stories where you talk to the camera about what you are doing. Use calls to action, but not on every post. Most of your content should just be value, and the simplest way to find value is to name the pains your people have and offer solutions.

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The Four Ways To Get Leads

Alex Hormozi lays out four ways to get leads: warm outreach, cold outreach, paid ads and organic content. You can do all four or focus on one.

Paid ads are usually the quickest. If you do not have an ad budget, start with warm and cold outreach. Reaching out to your own network is the easiest way to see if your offer lands. Business is not for the faint of heart, so be aggressive about getting leads. At one point I turned off paid ads and grew through warm outreach, associations and connections with my team.

Nathan Newberry in the interview: Leads And Revenue: The 2 Numbers Every Business Is Chasing (3 of 3)
Nathan Newberry in this interview.

Everything Runs Through Organic

Here is the part most people miss. No matter which lead source you use, it all comes back to organic content.

If someone sees your ad, they follow you and see your content. If you reach out to them, they look at your profile and see your content. That middle of the funnel is where people get nurtured.

I have been part of funnels where ads went straight to a sales call, and it was hard. The person had never seen my content, so they showed up wondering why they were on the call. Now you have two sales to make. First you convince them to stay on the call, then you convince them to buy. That can stretch into two or three calls.

When people have spent time with your organic content first, they show up already knowing, liking and trusting you.

So keep it simple. You are chasing more leads and more revenue. Grow in the four skills, focus on one or two platforms, pick your lead sources, and let your content do the nurturing.

Common Questions

What Are The Two Metrics Every Business Needs?

Leads and revenue. Nathan's point is that to make more money you need more leads, and a lot of the other things people get busy with are not what moves those two numbers.

Why Pair Instagram With YouTube?

Nathan's reasoning is that people need to spend real time with your content before they buy. Short reels take a long time to add up, so pairing Instagram with a weekly YouTube video or podcast gives people more time with you.

What Are The Four Ways To Get Leads?

Paid ads, organic content, warm outreach and cold outreach. You can do all four or focus on one. Warm outreach inside your own network is a quick way to test if your offer lands.

Why Do Ads That Go Straight To A Sales Call Struggle?

They skip the middle of the funnel. The person has not seen your content, so you have to sell them on staying on the call and then sell them on the offer, which is two sales at once.

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Nathan Newberry
Nathan Newberry Business Advisor, Sales Leader And Former Pastor

Nathan Newberry is a business advisor, sales leader and former pastor. He helps Christian owners of established businesses scale so the business makes more money, needs less of them, and funds their calling. He built and sold a marketing agency, has interviewed hundreds of business advisors, and leads the Impact Freedom Accelerator. More about Nathan